Like, who is this person hiding behind the pseudonym Catboy Kami? What is his real name? Who is this guy when he turns off his computer?ĪLICE BRENNAN: Who indeed. The whole thing felt unsafeĪLEX MANN: Now, even the FBI is on his case.ĪRCHIVE : Well, I don't really want to talk about it while there is an ongoing investigation.ĪLICE BRENNAN: So Catboy Kami is mixing with the top ranks of the US white power movement when only a year and half ago he was live-streaming from some bedroom in Ipswich?ĪLEX MANN: Yeah, I wanted to understand how that happened and I also wanted to know who he was. JARED HOLT: Extremist movements deeply value anybody in their ranks that can get people laughing.ĪLEX MANN: Last year, he moved to the US and key far-right figures have turned his so-called edgy humour into a propaganda tool.ĪRCHIVE : And it's like because I saw the potential, I saw the obvious potential there.ĪLEX MANN: And his online pranks have morphed into real-world race hate.ĪRCHIVE : I'm Catboy Kami and I hate nxxxxx.ĪLEX MANN: Did you guys ever feel unsafe in that situation? DAISY: Oh, yeah. His personal telegram channel has about 44 thousand subscribers.Īnd he's actually made some money off this too but the thing is, this is more than just some racist shock merchant in an obscure corner of the internet.īecause with his fame and notoriety, Catboy Kami has become this useful tool in the expansion of one of the globe's most extreme social movements. ALEX MANN: Totally, yeah these Russian videos about him receive hundreds of thousands of views. CATBOY KAMI: Officer.I can't breathe.ĪLEX MANN: In other videos, he dresses up in stereotypical Asian costumes.ĪRCHIVE: That's racist!!! You're a disgrace! CATBOY KAMI: Oh, racist, RACIST!ĪLICE BRENNAN: And.clearly there's an audience for this stuff. These days, he does all sorts of horrible stuff like dressing up in blackface.ĪLEX MANN: and confronting kids in random video chat rooms online then recording their reactions.ĪRCHIVE: Oh my god oh my god. Why did you start investigating what he was up to?ĪLEX MANN: Yeah since that video was made, Catboy Kami has kind of crashed through every extreme and social taboo that you can imagine in this accelerating quest for shock and attention.

basically just a harmless prank and it's true, that many of this guy's videos have that feel about them.īut that video was shot about a year and a half ago and in that short space of time, Catboy Kami has demonstrated that he is definitely not harmless.ĪLICE BRENNAN: So after the milk video, what happened with this guy who calls himself Catboy Kami. I don't think so.ĪLICE BRENNAN: You might be tempted to think that this kind of thing is. The police give him a lift home, and soon, he's back at his own front door.ĪRCHIVE : Has anyone ever had a more eventful time, going to the shop to drink some milk? I don't think so. It's colder than he expects and he shrieks, and he smiles for the camera and then, Catboy Kami runs.ĭown the road he gets stopped by police and he's fined for making a mess. he takes them outside and immediately chugs one entire bottle.Īnd then he takes the other bottle, and, right out the front of the shop, he pours the cold milk all over his whole body. I see the milk! I see the milk chat!ĪLICE BRENNAN: He buys two, two-litre bottles of milk. His tens of thousands of followers just know him as Catboy Kami.ĪRCHIVE: ok here we are, we're at the store chat. not everywhere is fucking California.ĪLICE BRENNAN: No-one online knows his real name. As he walks, he films himself, live-streaming what he's about to do next.ĪRCHIVE : No, all you guys are idiots, no, so. He's dressed in what looks like a kind of skimpy two-piece maid's outfit, complete with a headband and ribbons. So please look after yourselves.ĪRCHIVE : Don't you love it how I'm just hanging around the house just chilling, then all of a sudden someone's just like, 'milk stream!' and I'm like fuck it dude, yeah let's go.ĪLICE BRENNAN: So this young guy in his 20s steps out of his house, and onto a street on the outskirts of Ipswich. ALICE BRENNAN: Hey there, Alice Brennan here and welcome to Background Briefing.īefore we begin the show this week I just want to warn you there is a lot of strong language in today's episode and there is also quite a bit of discussion about extreme racism.

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